With 4 apps, Topps has a large number of people who collect and love their games. The issue is that there is very little resources out there for use with trading cards between the apps, and avoiding the scammers who will take you to the cleaners. Here is how I survive the different ways to cross trade, and avoid getting had.
What is Cross Trading?
As of right now, there is no official ways to trade Huddle cards for Bunt cards, or SWCT cards for Kick cards, or anything in between. Being that the apps are all separate entities with separate licenses, its tough to make that happen.
Thus, users are left to an honor system that requires separate trades on the two apps in question, usually negotiated through same card trades with messages on one of the apps.
The way this works is a user will post on the feed or one of the articles that they want to cross trade, and solicit messages from like minded traders who have what they need. Messages are exchanged and both parties agree to send the cards.
One user is ALWAYS left with the trust of the other users, as someone will have to be the person waiting for the other to accept their proposal. Here is how it is broken down:
- User 1 sends a trade for the card(s) agreed as part of the trade, a common is given in return
- User 2 sends a trade for the other side of the deal on the other app, giving a common in return
- When user 1 accepts the first trade, user 2 accepts the second trade, leaving both parties with the cards they want on each app.
This can actually be a pretty lucrative situation for both parties, especially if they are trading cards on an app that isnt their main for cards they need on the one they play the most.
The biggest drawback to cross trading is the scammers who will use cross trading as a way to get cards for free. They will play the role of User 2 and rather than accepting the trade, they will just keep the cards they were supposed to give.
This can also be completed with users saying they are someone they are not, making it even more difficult to manage the situation.
Bottom line, if a trade is too good to be true, it probably is too good to be true. When working with high value inserts, its always good to have a backup plan so that you arent left in the dust. Its one of the main reasons I rarely cross trade with someone I dont know very well.
NOTE: Once a trade is accepted, the cards are gone. You will not be able to get them back. If you give up cards in a trade by accepting an offer, you lose all claim to those cards.
Best Practices for Cross Trading
There are ways to prevent yourself from being scammed. Many of these best practices might be a deal breaker for a pending trade but its better to miss out on a good trade than to get your cards stolen.
- Dont Accept First – Being the person that trades their half of the deal first is always the person who bears the burden of trust from user 2. If your side of the trade is more valuable, or you are more established, the custom is for the other person to go first. If someone refuses to trade first, that’s a red flag to me.
- Ask around – go to the articles or go to the feed and ask if the user you are trading with is legit. Do not take their personal references, as they could have something set up to give you a false reference.
- Use a third party escrow – I am always happy to be the disinterested third party that will take cards from both users and deliver out both sides when I have everything. Basically, find someone who can take both sides of the deal, and give them to the other person. That way, if the other person doesnt follow through, the third party can give you back your cards without an issue. If you need a list of people who I know would be up for the role, outside of myself, please tweet me.
- Trade with people who have a lot to lose – High collection score and high trade rating users are more trustworthy than users who have no trades and no collection. Scamming is a ban worthy offense, and users with big collections and a great rep wouldnt want to sully their presence with a scam on their conscience.
- Verify their username on the other app before initiating a trade. I have seen people claim to be one person on another app that is definitely not them. Require them to verify the trade on both apps with a message before proceeding with anything.
- Dont trust anyone – Just because they have great ebay feedback doesnt mean that they are a worthy cross trade who wont rip you off. If they say they are the best person in the world, dont take their word for it. Saying something doesnt make it true.
- Complete a few lower value deals – make them prove that they are worthy. Better to lose a few golds than a high dollar insert. This will also confirm identity.
Remember, when trading between two apps, the values might not line up the way you expect. Where you could have a valuable card on one app, doesnt necessarily mean an equivalent exists on the other. Try to keep your value perceptions in line, and dont give up more than you think is fair just because you are initiating a cross trade.
Here is my interpretation of the conventions surrounding cross trades. It WILL vary user to user, but this is the way I look at it.
- The user who initiates the conversation usually is required to accept the trade first, unless they are a highly established user and the other party is not.
- Be very specific about which cards you are talking about. Dont use short hand and acronyms, be as specific as you can. Mentioning a card count helps to clear up confusion on which variant you might be speaking of.
- Do not accept any trades until both sides have said they agree. Clear agreement is absolutely necessary.
- Both sides must make a trade offer to complete the cross trade. Each user should send a common for the side of the trade they agree upon.
In closing, the only person who can put you at risk is you. If something smells funny or has too many red flags, walk away. Its better to walk away than get your stuff stolen. Be calculating, and take your time. Firing off quick cross trades will only put you in harm’s way.
I am always happy to help in case you have any questions.
New User Tips is a running series on Digital Card Central – If there are any other questions you have about the nuance of the game, please do not hesitate to tweet me @SCUncensored or through a same card trade with a message in the game.
If you have ideas for future New User Tips – please let me know!